Coach Interviews
During our interviews, a majority of agents mentioned one or more national coach/trainer who had a major influence on their career success. In fact, most agents went out of their way to credit and thank other people such as coaches and trainers.
We reviewed the interviews and selected a few leading coaches/trainers who were mentioned by multiple people. We invited them to participate in the book and be interviewed.
We are very thankful for their time for the interviews. To our knowledge, this is the only book published in the real estate industry which includes interviews from some of the top coaches in the industry in the same book.
The book contains interviews with: Howard Brinton, Mike Ferry, Ken Goodfellow, Walter Sanford, and Floyd Wickman. We congratulate them on their own personal career and life success and the amazing impact they have had on thousands of people in the real estate industry.
Below is just a sampling of the interview with Howard Brinton.HOWARD
BRINTON
STAR POWER®
SYSTEMS BOULDER,
CO Background For how many
years have you been in the real estate business? I started in the
real estate business in 1968. What is your
personal background and how did you get into real estate? How did you
get into coaching? I began selling
life insurance immediately after graduating from college. After five years, the
fellow we bought our first home from convinced me that real estate was more
viable. He had started a land development company when we were in Salt Lake
City. I began selling
dirt that turned into cities and communities. That took me to Colorado to open a new
project. In 1974, I was
President of my Board of Realtors. One of my competitors asked if I wanted to
come teach a GRI course in Colorado. I had fun and
enjoyed teaching it. I had never been shy about being in front of people. After
that course, I was asked to teach the course alone. That led to teaching courses
around the State of Colorado. In 1978, I was
asked to nationally audition for the Council of Residential Specialists (CRS). I
was accepted. Slowly, I was meeting people through teaching nationally. It led
to more and more people asking me to speak privately. I was teaching
about 50% of the time, and the other 50% I was doing real estate. My future wife
gave me What Color is Your Parachute? After completing most of the exercises in
the book, I opened up my speaking/coaching business in 1984. Ever since, I have
devoted my full efforts to helping others
achieve success. What do you
enjoy most about the business? I get great joy
out of people’s success and knowing that we’ve made a difference in their lives.
Our mission is “to have a
profound impact on improving the quality of peoples business and personal
lives.” And, it’s most
satisfying when we accomplish that mission. Mentors Who was the
most influential person or mentor in your early career? Sark Arslanian: My
college football coach, and at 84, he still inspires me today. Because of him,
my first career interest was to become a football coach. Hugh Pinnock: He
sold me on sales and using my personality to my financial benefit. Ken Reyhons: He
taught me that there’s so much more to education than making people laugh. He
showed me that joy and integrity could be partners in the learning
process. Basic Numbers About how
many real estate agents do you work with on different levels in your
organization? What is the structure and levels? We work with
15,000 active agents, in our database, who are plugged into things we are doing,
our Conferences, Summits, and University programs. I’ll speak to over 4,000
annually, and on a one-on-one I still coach a select few. How many
people do you think, in the country, have sold over $1 billion in their
career? I estimate there
are maybe 100 people who have achieved this level. About 18 years ago, when I
was looking for agents who had sold more than 100 transactions, I only found
about 16. Marketing If you were
advising our target agent at $100,000 who wants to get to $200,000 or $500,000,
what would be your top marketing advice? Develop a
marketing plan; and budget every year — and follow it. Agents in a growth mode
will invest as much as 25% in marketing; while 10% percent is a normal budget
level. Have a message with your “Brand” going out to your marketplace at least
twice a month. More, if you want to grow and dominate an area. Your message can
vary each month; however, consistency is critical. Next, put lead
generation systems in place (FSBO and Expired programs, Orphan programs,
Referral programs, Post Sale programs, WEB lead generation and incubation
programs) that will require little time or management. Lastly, and the most
productively, get on the phone with people you know on a regular basis, and stay
in contact with them. Handle their real estate needs and the needs of those they
know. Tracking the
source of business becomes a larger part of an agent’s evolution at this stage,
particularly if profit is a desired byproduct. Lead generation is the key, with
systems in place to handle the extra business. For a top
agent who has been in the business for 10 years, what percentage of their
business should be client repeat/referral? What is the range you see in
reality? I was told years
ago that after 4 years, 40% of your business could be referral. That never
occurs if you don’t work it with a plan and a system. I’ve interviewed agents
with as high as 80% coming from referrals, and yes — they have a strong
follow-up and referral program. I know some agents who are
successful, at 10% or less coming from referrals, because they gear their lead
generation to cold calling and spending less than 1% on marketing. It works well
for them. Growth of
Business What does
the average real estate agent fail to do which are among the reasons why they
are average? Name as many things as you can. They fail to get
out of their own way (allowing their own fears and biases to dictate their
actions). They fail to take
action on items that work. They fail to
realize the importance of continual education. They fail to work
“on” their business daily instead of working “in” their business. They fail to see
themselves in abundance and earning more than they can visualize. As you see
agents grow from $100,000 to $500,000, what are the biggest challenges you
see? The challenges
range from redefining their role (from sales to leadership), surrounding oneself
with good people (team building, hiring, policy manuals, job descriptions), to
building a business of systems (getting them implemented). Another difficult
challenge is the ability to “let go” of the outcome, when
building a team to take you to higher revenue levels. Then, you can start
looking at a more global picture of your business. The more systems people have
in place, the better the chance the consumer will receive the same level of
service. It makes the workload of the team automatic and
makes sure things are getting done. When should
an agent get their first part-time assistant?. I think they
should hire an assistant from the very first day they start their business.
Until you hire an assistant, you are one. Are you worth $20/ hour or
$100/hour? Many things
happen when you hire someone. It is like getting married. You start to do things
because you have another mouth to feed.